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New Permission & Only 1 Chance Help!!

fuzzytexan

fuzzytexan

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Well folks I scored a sweet permission today!

After tracking down the owners and a nice conversation I was granted permission to an old church that has never been detected.


Only caveat is I have only one chance to hit it. Now it is only 1 acre and I should be able to cover it in one day no problem.

Here is my question,should I spring for a NEL big coil before I go?

I am running an AT Pro, I have the stock coil and a 5x8. I don't know any local that has one I can borrow so that is out of the question. I know my AT Pro very well and can tell faint deep signals.
I just want to give myself the best chance to hit this one spot and hit it good.

Ahhhh I'm excited to get out there!!

Help me out with a decision on the coil.

Here are some pics

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Nice hunting grounds. I wouldn't go too big on the coil or you might miss some of the smaller targets. Looking forward to seeing the finds. Good luck and happy hunting.
 
Congrats on the permission !!!!

I'll leave your question to more experienced detectorists, but if those grounds had an area they used for church picnics it might be a good spot to find stuff.
 
I wouldnt bet on it never having been detected, I know guys that never ask permission and go wherever they want whenever they want. I would bet it HAS been detected, Especially THAT close to a road.... and as such, you might want to hit areas that aren't the common spots we all detect. Hit the tree rows, clearings in trees, anywhere kids may go to do mischief without the adults seeing them.

Hit the obvious spots first but if you realize you aren't finding much, go where they wouldn't most likely.
 
NectarDetector said:
I wouldnt bet on it never having been detected, I know guys that never ask permission and go wherever they want whenever they want. I would bet it HAS been detected, Especially THAT close to a road.... and as such, you might want to hit areas that aren't the common spots we all detect. Hit the tree rows, clearings in trees, anywhere kids may go to do mischief without the adults seeing them.



Hit the obvious spots first but if you realize you aren't finding much, go where they wouldn't most likely.
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Agreed, I worded that poorly we never really know if it hasn't been hit. The land owner has owned the property for a long time and said no one has detected but those night hawks could have been sneaking in LOL.
 
fuzzytexan said:
Agreed, I worded that poorly we never really know if it hasn't been hit. The land owner has owned the property for a long time and said no one has detected but those night hawks could have been sneaking in LOL.
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Just offering up a suggestion so you can transition your style of hunting to give yourself the best advantage. Sites like that I tend to hit the areas I mentioned and am usually rewarded with coins along tree rows where people sit, stand to talk, kids hide and play, lawn care workers take shade there, and the tractor drivers that plowed fields park along tree rows and have lunch etc... think outside the box and go where they wouldn't and get rewarded when they weren't!
 
NectarDetector said:
Just offering up a suggestion so you can transition your style of hunting to give yourself the best advantage. Sites like that I tend to hit the areas I mentioned and am usually rewarded with coins along tree rows where people sit, stand to talk, kids hide and play, lawn care workers take shade there, and the tractor drivers that plowed fields park along tree rows and have lunch etc... think outside the box and go where they wouldn't and get rewarded when they weren't!
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Excellent suggestion from Nectar Detector on where to hunt. I too have found much silver under trees. People sitting in lawn chairs tend to lose the contents in their pockets while under a shady tree. Also look for old tree stumps or dips in an area where a stump was removed. The larger the tree the older the finds will be. Good luck.
 
fuzzytexan said:
Agreed, I worded that poorly we never really know if it hasn't been hit. The land owner has owned the property for a long time and said no one has detected but those night hawks could have been sneaking in LOL.
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I was just thinking, if it had been detected before without permission then it was likely detectorists who took care to replace their plugs or wouldn't it have been obvious if they left holes all over the place ? :?: (just a thought)
 
Go with what you know.You said you can hear the faint,deep ones with your 5x8.I wouldn't try breaking in a new coil on a one-shot-honeyhole.There are subtle differences pinpointing with a larger coil that will slow you down at first,wasting valuable digging time. Good luck,let's see some finds soon.
 
New Permission & Only 1 Chance Help!!

MrNovice said:
Why only 1 chance to detect? Just curious...
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Not sure honestly, I had a nice conversation with the owner it was just his request. I'm hoping after we meet he might extended the permission length.

I got a yes so I wasn't gonna push it.

Stay Tuned, It will likely be two weeks before I can commit a full day to Detecting it.
 
Current property owners or managers will often say a place has "...never been detected". But perhaps someone in the past got permission from someone else. And the current person you're talking to just doesn't happen to know that. Eg.: the deacon, the organist, the pastor's son, the guy cutting the lawn who shrugged his shoulders and said help yourself, etc.... I've seen this scenario played out many times.
 
Good luck! I feel your 5x8 coil will be fine.

I have a place near me, old church that burned in 1905 and was rebuilt. Large open area out back, folks came around for years and had picnics/gatherings. I'd talked to old-timers that detected it in the '80's and said it was a 'silver mine'. When I hit it a couple years ago, I still found a bunch of silver and my first Morgan dollar - can't believe that was overlooked -
 
if it was me I would stay with what I have on my machine. I never like learning new equipment on new property. Plus if this really is one and done hunt I would want to hunt with something that I have 100% confidence in...

I had property owner tell me ok for a single hunt and it was a trial or test. If I was polite and thankful,and clean. I normally got a return request approved.
 
Like others I have good luck around "shade trees" at these old locations.

Not sure how secluded this area is but many people treat churches like public property. If the owner of this church does not live close by I wouldn't be surprised at all if people haven't been on this ground detecting.
 
I would say give yourself a full day from sun up to sun down. I dont hunt the land however I would go along the tree line like the others have said. Also if there is any areas that you can get to under the church you could always try that as old churches usually have wooden floors and any coins going into a collection basket could have dropped through the cracks. I would also do that open area between the 2 tree lines as kids may have played there
 
flyin-lowe said:
.... Not sure how secluded this area is but many people treat churches like public property. ....
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Correct. Not the same "feel" as if you were on the lawn of someone's house or whatever. Example: When I was in Jr. High school, all the kids in my neighborhood caught the school bus on the corner of the block, where a Church was. We'd all wait, and line up, essentially on the church's lawn (there was no sidewalks, and grass just came all the way to the street's edge).

By about 8th or 9th grade, I'd gotten my first detector, and wondered "where will I try it out at ?". And I knew that for 15 or 20 yrs, the kids in our area all caught the school bus. So it was just a 'natural' to go there first. And sure enough, I found coins from the fumble fingers kids. Even a wheatie or two.

When I had finished the immediate surroundings of the zone where this was, I kept expanding and expanding my circle, till .... I was ... well ... on the church lawn itself closer to the actual church. After many hunts, I'd expanded to have hit all sides of the church. Doh! (hey, I was young and dumb!)

One day a janitor came out, saw me, froze, and watched me for a moment. Then came over and asked what I was doing. I told him. He shrugged his shoulders and went back on his way.

hence yes, all legal technical arguments aside, ..... some churches (depending on how they're laid out) can have a a different feel about them.
 
Don't change the diet of a winning race horse!

I did the same thing as you. Halfway through the day I switched back to my 5x8.

The NEL storm is a good coil but it is sensitive. It seems to be overly sensitive and sometimes send off false signals repeatable false signals at that. Also i cannot even use this coil if the ground is to wet in my rich sandy soil.
My stock shaft was to "limp" and it makes it false signal. Jerry and nectar from antique hooked me up with an Anderson shaft that cured that. He also sold me the NEL coil. Great guys, i do recommend them if you do buy it.

side effect of a lose shaft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCeKiWtAkjc

Long story short is it is a game changer and you don't want to relearn your detector on a spot you get 1 shot at.

I'd hit the obvious spots then move on to where i think parking would have been from there trees or ground indentions of old trees.

Good luck let us know what you find...

P.S After you do your hunt you should give them one of your finds as a gift and maybe bake them a cake you just might recieve an open invitation
 
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