Dig every signal?

You gotta know your detector really good.
It's talkin so much, it's an overload to hear.

Hunting trashy areas is tricky and disappointing.
Knowing your detectors settings and signal talk helps.

I set the Disc higher or move on.
You gotta ask yourself, "Do I feel lucky today".
 
Whatever you decide, keep it fun.:bouncy: If that means turning the discrimination full up for a while and digging the shallow copper and silver for a while, then do that. Odds are, once your patience builds up, you'll be heading back to the same hunting grounds over and over again, discriminating less each time.

Is it better to dig everything? I'd say it's best to enjoy what you're doing and try to keep in mind that it's the hunt that we enjoy. The finds are a nice pay off when they come, but I suspect that few folks get rich off of metal detecting. We do it because it's fun. If it's not fun, you're not doing it right.;)
 
I was at a SUPER trashy park this evening and i had the DISC cranked and it was still chattering a little! This place was just covered with trash. Its not even that old (dates back to the 60's) so i just cherry picked a few coins and left. I'll stick to less trashy parks and schools.

Its amazing how much trash gets built up in the ground.
 
I was at a SUPER trashy park this evening and i had the DISC cranked and it was still chattering a little! This place was just covered with trash. Its not even that old (dates back to the 60's) so i just cherry picked a few coins and left. I'll stick to less trashy parks and schools.

Its amazing how much trash gets built up in the ground.

Yes. People are disgusting. Every time I see someone casually toss trash on the ground I just want to jump up and smack them.

Rarely I'll pick it up and hand it back to them saying, "Excuse me, I think you dropped this." But usually I just pick it up and toss it in the trash.
 
I went back to the same "trashy" park that I started this post about last night. Granted im still learning my XLT, but this place makes it go crazy. About the only way to make it run stable is to crank up the disc. It is litterally at least 3 to 4 targets per STEP !!!! I have never seen so many pull tabs and bottle caps in one place. I went through and cherry picked some coins but thats about it. I plan to order a smaller coil for my machine soon, and maybe I will go back and give it a shot then, but for now, I just cant hunt it.
 
on the ace, i put it in jewelry mode and then dig absolutely everything that gives me a constant signal.. and thats how i found some goodies which i will post hopefully in a couple days =p - my first valuable finds :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
I went out yesterday and worked a small forgotten park. Every step or two was a pull tab or twist cap. Just being a beginner at this, I have been digging every signal. Now I don't have a Cadillac detector, but I'm learning the difference in signal strengths. I did come across a strong beep, and dug down about 10 inches and found a cast iron ring that goes to a pot belly stove. Nothing to whoop and holler about, but it was better than a pull tab. Oh yea, I was at a tot lot sch also just before dark, and found a lead sheat, probably used around sewer drains on roofs. I need to get a probe, it sure would help in narrowing down my digging time. Just my 2 pebbles.
 
There's a park in my town where I go sometimes that the signals are just crazy and would be impossible to dig everything even cherry picking would be difficult and my back won't allow it.
 
I know what you mean about only getting a small area of the site you're working on done because of digging so many small signals. I finally had to just go over it a little faster and dig the strongest signals, THEN pick another day to go over it again and pick up medium range vdi signals. THEN you can go back and pick up the lower signals.
Remember that weather can make a difference from day to day on how strong of a signal you are getting. Try to dig right after a rain when it's easier to dig and you get a stronger reading. Cheers!
GiGi
 
I play a game with myself - I dig all the pulltab signals in a park until I have found 25 pulltabs, then I switch to coin mode.

I do find gold rings using this method. Many of them, especially high school class rings, register as pulltabs on most detectors.

If I skipped the tabs, the rings would still be in the ground.

And when I dig a gold ring, those pulltabs don't seem to be much of a headache anymore. Because they masked my ring from previous treasure hunters who didn't want it bad enough to dig pulltabs.
 
I went back to the same "trashy" park that I started this post about last night. Granted im still learning my XLT, but this place makes it go crazy. About the only way to make it run stable is to crank up the disc. It is litterally at least 3 to 4 targets per STEP !!!! I have never seen so many pull tabs and bottle caps in one place. I went through and cherry picked some coins but thats about it. I plan to order a smaller coil for my machine soon, and maybe I will go back and give it a shot then, but for now, I just cant hunt it.

Using a smaller coil will help out quite a bit when hunting trashy areas. That is one of the main reasons that I bought a sniper coil for my Ace 250. GL
 
I have a hotel site I'm working right now that is so trashy I hit up to a dozen trash signals per sweep. Fortunately I'm using a small coil. It has helped greatly.
 
how much depth do you lose with the smaller coil? I've been using an 8" coil and pulling coins at up to 7". I've been thinking about gettign a 4" "Gold nugget" coil for trashy sites, but I'm concerned that I'll lose too much depth to make it worth while.

Also, how small is your small coil? Is a 6" small enough to make a difference compared to an 8"? Is 4" better? How much does size matter? :p
 
I use the 4.5"x7" DD Excelerator coil. It works on both my MXT and M6. I have dug wheats with it 6" deep - no problem. Depth is going to depend a lot upon your detector, the coil you buy, the ground conditions and how fast you sweep (which may be part of your detector settings). A small coil is always a good thing to have in your arsenal. You may not use it much, but when you need it you'll be thanking yourself for buying it. I know I am.
 
wow allot has been said here that is pretty smart. i don't know what to add but to second milty in that keep it fun or you won't stick with it.

most of the areas in vegas that i hunt are less than 20y.o. and are covered with the rollout type sod that is usually no more than 3in. thick.

i have target depth, conductivity, and size to go by on my 2500. in the areas i hunt most i don't dig anything larger than bottle-cap size or more than 3in deep because i have found that it is mostly construction debris, squashed 12oz cans or larger pipe fittings. my position is that there is likely no big caches buried in a place that is only 10 or 20 y.o.

otherwise i dig allot of the stay-on type pull-tabs, bottle caps, keys, etc. and of course clad, clad, clad! with a little silver here and there. bottle caps and pull-tabs ring up as gold rings on my 2500 so i dig allot of that.

since i have graduated to zero discrimination, non-motion, all metal mode my world has changed. the hunting experience seems more fun even when i dig trash. i seem to be recovering my discoveries more quickly with amm.

i am looking forward to becoming proficient with amm for when i search old ghost sites that are cache candidates. i hope that my talent will just bloom when i get to the old places after i have used amm for awhile.
 
Found, like others, that the snipper coil is great for trash areas. There are a couple of sites that I work consistently. They are very low level trash sites, so I dig everything. Makes it easier on the future visit as most of the new trash is now at or close to surface.
In trash park sites, I'll sweep the picnic table areas for sure clad or any interesting signal, (I would be there for ever if I dug every signal) but I really concentrate in the open areas where football games or volleyball games would be played and any tree lines. Those areas I dig everything and it is not as trashy, mostly dealing with slaw. I like to grid off areas, and work it hard. Next visit, I rework an older grid, then start a new one. Time consuming to start, but at times very productive. Got the Ace 2 years ago and has paid for its self , the snipper and pin pointer. Haven't spent any of the found clad yet, but now thinking of reinvesting it into a 2500.
 
Gander, I have a Bullseye. Was a lot of negitive feed back about the quality of the push switch, but never had a any sort of a problem with it.
 
I just bought a Automax v4 pinpointer to go with my Lone Star Bounty Hunter. (Ebay, $45) The BH, will get you within the general area, but after that, I find myself digging a big hole.
I explored a dog park that used to be an old little league baseball field with four different backstops. The backstop poles are made of wood, sort of predates the field. I basically let my dog run all over as I scanned the park. I had pings everywhere, dug a few up. Found 1 dime, penny, and my first musket ball. In Washington State too, a musket ball! Looks like a lead 30 cal. Its a big Dog Park, with lots of flat ground, mostly overgrown with scotch broom and blackberries. I'm thinking since tomorrow is going to be a nice day again, and I have it off...hmmm spend most of the day there seeing what I can find. Don't have to be very dainty with my holes, although I still fill and cover all my holes anyway. Wish I had that new Pinpointer with me.
 
MCHO2 your doing the right thing in getting a smaller coil for the park site.

The Spectrums weakness is that its a four filter design which means it needs a fairly rapid sweep to obtain the best depth and discrimination. You should really get a two filter detector who's fast recovery speed will make things a lot easier.

The only solution with a four filter detector is to reduce the coil size, the Whites six inch is great and then adjust the recovery speed of the machine to allow for both the amount of trash and the smaller than stock coil.
You should find no depth loss as compared to the stock coil in this type of area.
 
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